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Leonard_of_Q 22 minutes ago [-]
80 years ago "updated map shows the destruction of the city of Berlin"
Same for Tokyo
Same but even more for Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Not to mention Dresden
All of these have one thing in common: they are cities in countries which started a war and suffered the consequences of that decision. The fire bombings of Dresden and Tokyo were not in any way humane actions but when was war ever humane?
dumberquestions 11 minutes ago [-]
History didn't start on October 7th.
lotadicarus 20 minutes ago [-]
this is not war, it is genocide
bjork 15 minutes ago [-]
It’s not genocide in any way, shape or form. Please use other sources than TikTok.
Its really telling to see the destruction limited to where the structures used to be rather than to all of the surrounding green spaces. If the destruction of civilian dwellings was purely an accident you'd expect to see the destruction spread evenly over the area. Instead it looks much more like a prolonged set of surgical strikes to destroy the buildings while preserving as much of the surrounding areas as possible.
They just use bulldozers to flatten whatever the bombs don't. They can drive a bulldozer pretty precisely, especially when they don't care who's in front of it or under it.
Caterpillar even supplies the IDF with bulldozers just for this purpose, which then get up-armored and sent into Palestinian civilian areas to do this (including unmanned versions).
By the time the bulldozers are there civilians have long moved out of the area.
AuthAuth 8 minutes ago [-]
They kept hostages to intentionally get this result.
wilburx3 1 hours ago [-]
The icons from what was there before are a haunting digital ghost. School, Restaurant, Pharmacy all the city is just rubble.
peter_retief 33 minutes ago [-]
This should not be allowed on HN.
Each to their own beliefs but this is propoganda.
ImPostingOnHN 24 minutes ago [-]
Calling this "propaganda" is propaganda.
peter_retief 8 minutes ago [-]
Sure, buildings were demolished, is that unusual in a war zone?
ImPostingOnHN 5 minutes ago [-]
> Sure, buildings were demolished, is that unusual in a war zone?
I'm going to assume good faith in your framing, rather than intentional minimization. Suffice it to say, more has happened than "buildings were demolished", and those more things are the subject of the article. Like, for example, an entire city systemically flattened with every single civilian inhabitant killed or exiled on their own land.
To answer your question in that context: yes, that is unusual in war these days, because it is tantamount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.
igleria 1 hours ago [-]
Atomic dome vibes when looking at some of the few buildings still standing
It's sad that most world leaders do nothing to combat such genocide. There are so few sanctions against the state, or specific people, of Israel. Foreign forums are very much still open for business to them.
bjork 14 minutes ago [-]
Still no genocide no matter how much Macklemore wants it to be.
ImPostingOnHN 9 minutes ago [-]
Please. We can judge for ourselves, and don't need you to try this "jedi mind trick" schtick.
Please try posting more constructive content than unconvincing, blanket denials. It doesn't make for good discussion.
cities do not get systematically flattened with bulldozers in urban warfare, you only completely wipe out cities when you don't want any the civilians to come back.
ardit33 1 hours ago [-]
nah... it is explicit genocide, and the deliberate destruction of every civilian possible. Everyone knows what's going on.
Same for Tokyo
Same but even more for Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Not to mention Dresden
All of these have one thing in common: they are cities in countries which started a war and suffered the consequences of that decision. The fire bombings of Dresden and Tokyo were not in any way humane actions but when was war ever humane?
https://earth.google.com/web/search/31%2e297226,+34%2e243649... - then click "show historical imagery" next to the search box.
For a great example of this, look at this pin https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZcMbdFcx87PrqoYNA
And here's a pin of where the farms were spared https://maps.app.goo.gl/iZbbTH4iH27FCz4s9
Caterpillar even supplies the IDF with bulldozers just for this purpose, which then get up-armored and sent into Palestinian civilian areas to do this (including unmanned versions).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDF_Caterpillar_D9
Each to their own beliefs but this is propoganda.
I'm going to assume good faith in your framing, rather than intentional minimization. Suffice it to say, more has happened than "buildings were demolished", and those more things are the subject of the article. Like, for example, an entire city systemically flattened with every single civilian inhabitant killed or exiled on their own land.
To answer your question in that context: yes, that is unusual in war these days, because it is tantamount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Please try posting more constructive content than unconvincing, blanket denials. It doesn't make for good discussion.
[0] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/google-maps-...